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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_November_15
November 15
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:American actors by location
[edit]- Propose merging Category:American actors by location to Category:American actors
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 23:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:American male actors with disabilities
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Do we really need a 4-way intersection between nationality, gender, occupation, and disability? per WP:EGRS. SMasonGarrison 23:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Teetotallers
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. The person filed here was a Prime Minister of Finland, so the question of whether he drank alcohol or not is not a centrally defining facet of his political career. Bearcat (talk) 23:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:February 29 births
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining characteristic. We categorize people by their year of birth, but not by their month-and-day of birth, and the fact that February 29 doesn't happen every year is not a reason why being born on February 29 would be more defining than being born on February 28 or March 1. Bearcat (talk) 23:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Executed Abkhazian people
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, category contains only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional ranged weapons practitioners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Falls under WP:SUBJECTIVECAT as any character who throws their weapon may be considered a "ranged weapon user" even if the weapon is not intended to be used at range. Created by a blocked user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic. But then move Category:Fictional gunfighters directly under Fictional characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:People sentenced to death
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This would appear to fail WP:NONDEF, as being sentenced to death is potentially temporary and can be rescinded or rendered moot. It is not a "defining trait" like having been executed is. This deletion would also include all subcategories of "People sentenced to death" besides Category:Executed people, Category:Fictional executed characters and Category:Execution survivors. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- It seems a proper parent of the executed, survivors, paroled and sentenced in absentia subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- There are books about their authors' stay in the death row, so being just sentenced (whether one is executed or not) might be relevant. Apokrif (talk) 22:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd prefer this to be containerized rather than deleted, per Marco. SMasonGarrison 23:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- There are books about their authors' stay in the death row, so being just sentenced (whether one is executed or not) might be relevant. Apokrif (talk) 22:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional robbers
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Fictional robbers to Category:Fictional thieves
- Nominator's rationale: See WP:OVERLAPCAT. Extremely duplicative with the older category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- The previous discussion was closed as no consensus. As there wasn't any consensus for containerizing back then, I will now support the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional bandits
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Fictional bandits to Category:Fictional outlaws
- Nominator's rationale: This category didn't exist until recently, it's rather duplicative with the merge target and can easily be construed as the exact same thing. Per WP:OVERLAPCAT, they should be merged back. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or reverse merge, these are very closely related concepts. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:World Baseball Classic venues
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT User:Namiba 19:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic. Presumably WP:OCVENUE applies as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:41, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete more per WP:OCVENUE. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Negro league baseball venues still standing
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Negro league baseball venues still standing to Category:?
- Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure if this category should be deleted and turned into a list or renamed but I don't think it should stay as is. User:Namiba 19:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Airliner accidents and incidents caused by bird strikes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Aircraft accidents are seldom attributed to a single solitary cause; a number of interrelated factors are typically involved, and in some cases, the primary cause of an accident is strongly disputed. The proposed category name is more neutral, and is also more consistent with existing subcategories under Category:Accidents and incidents involving airliners, e.g., Category:Airliner accidents and incidents involving runway overruns. Carguychris (talk) 18:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Converts to Baptist denominations
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Seems better, and matches the subcats for converts from Islam. – Fayenatic London 14:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Independent Baptist
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Seems clearer than the current title which, even though it currently matches the main article Independent Baptist, is an adjectival phrase missing a noun. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:California pioneers
[edit]- Propose merging Category:California pioneers to Category:19th-century people from California
- Nominator's rationale: selectively merge, the real pioneers are already in Category:People of the Californias and Category:People of Alta California and it is an arbitrary choice to expand the pioneer period to the 1870s. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- But there are a lot of American pioneer categories. What about converting this into a container category to facilitate navigation? SMasonGarrison 23:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Deadly fungi consumed as a food
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT: is this intersection really helpful? Currently contains only one article; I can find no more entries in the parent categories which could fit here. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Comic poets
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Comic poets to Category:Ancient Greek comic poets
- Nominator's rationale: Current name is confusing. While in classical scholarship these are often called simply "comic poets" and the fact that they are ancient Greek is assumed from context, in a general encyclopedia it's not obvious that this category should solely be for ancient Greek writers. Periodically comic poets who are not ancient Greek are wrongly put in this category, which is part of Category:Ancient Greek comedy and Category:Ancient Greek poets by genre. (See today here and here which gave me the motivation to actually start this discussion, but it's a problem I've seen before). Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 12:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. A possible alternative is Category:Comic poets (ancient Greece). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:FIFA World Cup stadiums
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1930 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1934 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1938 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1950 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1954 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1958 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1962 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1966 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1970 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1974 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1978 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1982 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1986 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1990 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1994 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1998 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2002 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2002 FIFA World Cup stadiums in Japan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2002 FIFA World Cup stadiums in South Korea (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2006 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2010 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2014 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2018 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2022 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 FIFA World Cup stadiums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 FIFA World Cup stadiums in Canada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 FIFA World Cup stadiums in Mexico (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 FIFA World Cup stadiums in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This is textbook WP:OCVENUE which states
Avoid categorizing locations by the events or event types that have been held there, such as arenas that have hosted specific sports events
. I don't think the guideline could be any clearer. --woodensuperman 09:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Creates category clutter to group venues by every one off event, per WP:OCVENUE. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and expand to continental categories.--User:Namiba 19:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1807 establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Category:1807 establishments in Germany
- Propose merging Category:1832 establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Category:1832 establishments in the German Confederation
- Propose merging Category:1840 establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Category:1840 establishments in the German Confederation
- Propose merging Category:1843 establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Category:1843 establishments in the German Confederation
- Propose merging Category:1852 establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse and Category:1852 establishments in the German Confederation
- Propose merging Category:1830s in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Grand Duchy of Hesse
- Propose merging Category:1860s establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse
- Propose merging Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse by year to Category:Establishments in the Grand Duchy of Hesse
- Nominator's rationale: merge, except in 1869 these are all one- and two-article categories, which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge for Now per WP:NARROWCAT with no objection to recreation if the category count grows considerably per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Mission Indians
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Mission Indians to Category:Native American history of California
- Nominator's rationale: purge and selectively merge, this category contains very few articles which are really about Mission Indians, most articles are about current tribes in California some of whose ancestors were Mission Indians. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Commercial buildings in Egypt categories
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Commercial buildings in Egypt (1)
- Propose merging Category:Retail buildings in Egypt (2)
- Propose merging Category:Retail markets in Egypt (1)
- Propose merging Category:Shopping malls in Egypt (8)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT, all should be upmerged to Commercial buildings in Egypt. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- do not merge Category:Shopping malls in Egypt (8). This category has enough articles to justify its continued existence Hmains (talk) 04:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge the first two to Category:Buildings and structures in Egypt by type, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Delete the third, its only article isn't about a building. Keep the fourth per Hmains. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:50, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Buildings and structures in Egypt by type is a container category. It shouldn't contain any individual articles. voorts (talk/contributions) 05:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- There aren't any individual articles, there is just Category:Shopping malls in Egypt. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Buildings and structures in Egypt by type is a container category. It shouldn't contain any individual articles. voorts (talk/contributions) 05:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Decorating
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article; possible duplicate of Category:Decorative arts QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The only article is in Category:Interior design which suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Romani people in art
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: It only has just one article, it might be merged into some other category but I can't think of anything right now. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Romani (or else to Category:History of the Romani people). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Plantations in the Danish West Indies
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: WP:CATNAME
- This is just a truth in advertising nomination since all 43 articles in this category are specifically sugar planations. The Danish version of the Triangular trade focused on this single crop. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, this seems to overlap with Category:Sugar plantations in the United States Virgin Islands. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly open to different/broader changes. The islands were sold by Denmark to the US in 1917 and a lot of plantations crossed that date and others closed before it so I don't know if there is an elegant solution. (I don't recall seeing any founded after 1917 but I wasn't specifically looking for that.) RevelationDirect (talk) 15:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @RevelationDirect: I think the best solution is to rename as mominated and to merge Category:Sugar plantations in the United States Virgin Islands into it, with keeping a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- I tagged the USVI category and notified the creator as of this timestamp to allow for the merge proposed above. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)